Busy day but i feel like I got nothing accomplished. I ended up having to go to the city and ask them to show me what is allowed where. I went to the property this morning, I thought even tho a few houses that are in bad shape in the area, I could build a long enough driveway to get that stuff out of view. There are some nice houses there as well. The property is densely wooded, keeping those bad views out of sight would be easy. probably 70% of the woods are small trees that would easily come down with heavy machinery. A bit of a grade on the property, but not enough that an RV jack wouldn't be able to level the RV.
I found what was supposed to be a road according to GPS was actually a power line easement. That would be to get to the landlocked property. Besides not knowing if the public can use an easement, it would be 4 wheel drive material to get back there or an ATV.
Anyway, I went to the city and it is zoned Residential and Agricultural. The man said commercial enterprise not allowed, nix that one off the list. I had hopes for that land, especially if I could have gotten the price down a bit. I then asked about another property the realtor had sent me, it is not in city limits, therefore there are no restrictions. I met the realtor there at that property. It's the one that says it's half unusable because of a flood zone but that the front part would be great for building!
Not so. First off, you would have to bring in probably 50 truckloads of dirt to build a driveway in there, the embankment is long and steep. Second off, and the thing that told me no right off the bat - the entire front portion of the property was flooded. No thanks. I need more flat level ground with an entrance that isn't too steep up or down. I don't want to spend a bunch of money on that kind of improvements.
She then told me about another property. It's right next to the local airport. I went over there and there was an airplane revving up it's engines - extremely loud and noisy even tho it was probably 500 feet away. Plus it was also on a grade, tho nothing like the one I had just viewed with the realtor. I thought the noise would not be so nice for people wanting to enjoy a wooded area out in nature, literally at the end of a street.
So, I'm left with nothing to look at now. At least, nothing in my price range. I admit I want cheaper - this project doesn't have to cost hundreds of thousands of dollars. The cheaper part is the land, I just don't want to be saddled down with high monthly payments. This is potentially risky venture, what if I couldn't get enough people to park there to even pay monthly expenses? But, there is risk in any business venture. I'm really sold on the idea of out in the county tho. I passed by RV parks that had both mobile homes and RV's on the same lot. The city won't allow that even if they did allow any potential parcel of land to build a park. The beautify of the county - far less restrictions.
I don't believe the dude standing on his porch just off the right to the entrance to the property by the airport was all that excited to see me lol. And I think the road going through that property is actually an easement owned by the airport, there is an old gate at the end saying no trespassing airport property. However, that easement would work as a driveway, so that wouldn't be a problem. I'm going to think about that one for a while, but I guess I"d have to spend a day out there seeing how much air traffic noise there is. It's a small town, it would be hard to believe there would be too much of it, but you never know.
It isn't really a let down that none of them work. Well sort of is, but I'm in no hurry for the wrong property that won't appeal to RV'ers. An ideal property would have a large pond on it - stock it with fish, plenty of trees and level, no extreme grades to deal with. Not right off the highway, but close enough to not turn people off and a good rood to get in there. So I'm going to take another look at properties just for the fun of it, but the ones that might work are just too pricey, the down payment money is not available. For example, an 88k property which would have worked well - also means a $17,600 down payment. Don't have that much. And I don't want to take out a personal loan to get - a loan. The thought of taking out a HELOC on my house in Phoenix crossed my mind.
It would probably be the cheapest interest rate I could get. Chase bank isn't offering them right now - that's the bank I use for checking and savings. It might be a better idea than cashing out the 401k. Probably could find one somewhere.
Anyway, I'm coming to the conclusion the only good property I'm going to find is through the tax lien auction. It's only like 5 weeks away, so unless something really good shows up I'm going to wait and see what that sale has to offer this time around.
And so these people called back again. I have NO idea why they want all of these people on the line, but she said she couldn't talk right now and that she could get everyone on the line at 6:00 pm today. ??? I just wanted to ask what they are going to do with the property - if anything and what objections - if any - of me using it for hunting purposes. I can't imagine what all of these people want to talk about, so I'll just wait and not speculate too much about it. They can't tell me to stay off of it, they can offer to buy it out and I'd sell it to them - I'll end up with something sooner or later that isn't owned by a bunch of other people and wont' have to worry about dealing with them.
Well whatever. I come home from all of this, these contractors are in the house - no one else home. Not a problem. I go into the kitchen, put some groceries away, they come into the kitchen, we chat a bit. They go out onto the front porch so I stepped out there as well. They leave. I didn't notice that this dude locked the freaking front door on me. Unbelievable.
With that, they're back and I'm going to go say something to them about that......